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kiddster · Sep 04, 2008, 10:41 PM // 22:41

I don't have the time to use search atm. So I just want to know if a ranger or a mesmer is better overall in pve(going for r6 gwamm included)/pvp/farming/doing missions alone/ and which is used more with group builds for urgoz,deep, ect.. Also please don't post links to other links to other links from the search option. Thx

Kerwyn Nasilan · Sep 04, 2008, 10:55 PM // 22:55

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Originally Posted by kiddster

I don't have the time to use search atm.

But you have time to make a thread?

And with all that time it is a matter of preference, neither are particularity better for PvE imo.

unkleanone · Sep 04, 2008, 11:02 PM // 23:02

Well if your going for GWAMM you may as well rock the ranger and take advantage of the phoenix pet you will find hanging out in your HoM after you reach a certain rank in that title line.

also regardless of your choice be sure to make a canthan character and get yourself taken to lutgardis so you can hff till you reach the max survivor title.

Shayne Hawke · Sep 04, 2008, 11:25 PM // 23:25

I'd say that, in general, Rangers are better in PvE and Mesmers are better in PvP.

Dark Desicration · Sep 04, 2008, 11:29 PM // 23:29

Well, if you want farming/soloing/getting into groups, go ranger. Mesmers are a whole lot of fun to play though, you just have to have more patience.

Kook~NBK~ · Sep 05, 2008, 12:05 AM // 00:05

A well played Mesmer can do extremely well in PvE. However, the general view is that Mesmers don't work well in PvE, which isn't true at all when the person playing one knows what they're doing. I've got 24 PvE titles maxed on my Mesmer mainly using Heroes & Henchies, WITHOUT the use of ursan, buying runs, leeching, etc. (I don't have Drunkard, Sweet-tooth, or Party Animal titles yet.)

There are two big problems with how people view Mesmers. The first is that many people who have little or no experience with the class don't know how and what exactly it is that Mesmers DO. The other problem is that GW is saturated with a cookie-cutter mentality and people want to get things done as fast as possible. Some of the best things that Mesmers can bring to a party go unnoticed because of the lack of visuals regarding their spells (no flaming rocks falling from the sky). I did THK with a PUG (M & B)and afterwards the party leader PM'd me and said "I don't know what all you were doing, but I've never seen ANYONE running around casting spells as much as you were! Wanna join my guild?"

Rangers are very versatile and can fill many different rolls. BHA gives them excellent interrupting ability. Applying conditions is also something that Rangers can do very well. I don't play mine much, but I don't have too many troubles getting into groups for normal PvE play.

(I hope the OP has enough time to read all that

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Rhamia Darigaz · Sep 05, 2008, 12:08 AM // 00:08

neither are ridiculously good in pve, but rangers are more usefull for most of pve because they can benefit from orders and physical buffs in general.
both are ridiculously good in pvp.
edit: unless you wanna play cryway. then go mesmer.

snaek · Sep 05, 2008, 12:10 AM // 00:10

gwamm takes forever...
go wit wutever class u'd enjoy playin for hrs on end

poasiods · Sep 05, 2008, 08:22 AM // 08:22

You'll very likely end up getting sick of your main character class if investing enough time to achieve GWaMM. In that aspect, I think Ranger would be a better bet.

Correctly me if I'm wrong, but some of the most viable functions for Mesmers in PvP or PvE are - Hex shutdown (melee/caster), interruption, Illusionary Weapon spiking, Me/E shutdown/snare, Me/E nuking, energy denial, degeneration, CoP nuking, etc.

Some of the viable builds used by Rangers include: Dagger/axe/sword/hammer/scythe melee, spear chucking, interruption, shutdown (mostly via condition spamming), degen, trapping, spirit spamming, touching, thumping, beast mastering, splint barraging/incendiary arrow barraging, arrow spiking, etc.

As powerful as Mesmers are, I think choosing Ranger would open up more choices of things for you to try while getting that GWaMM.

Sep 04, 2008, 10:41 PM // 22:41	#1
kiddster Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ohio Guild: Republic Of Shadows [RoS] Profession: W/	Which is better? I don't have the time to use search atm. So I just want to know if a ranger or a mesmer is better overall in pve(going for r6 gwamm included)/pvp/farming/doing missions alone/ and which is used more with group builds for urgoz,deep, ect.. Also please don't post links to other links to other links from the search option. Thx Last edited by kiddster; Sep 04, 2008 at 10:51 PM // 22:51..

Sep 04, 2008, 11:02 PM // 23:02	#3
unkleanone Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: TN Guild: Semi Automatic Bananas [SEMI] Profession: R/Mo	Well if your going for GWAMM you may as well rock the ranger and take advantage of the phoenix pet you will find hanging out in your HoM after you reach a certain rank in that title line. also regardless of your choice be sure to make a canthan character and get yourself taken to lutgardis so you can hff till you reach the max survivor title.

Sep 04, 2008, 11:25 PM // 23:25	#4
Shayne Hawke Departed from Tyria Join Date: May 2007 Guild: Clan Dethryche [dth] Profession: R/	I'd say that, in general, Rangers are better in PvE and Mesmers are better in PvP.

Sep 04, 2008, 11:29 PM // 23:29	#5
Dark Desicration Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Southeast USA Guild: West Kentshire Pony Club [Pony] Profession: Me/	Well, if you want farming/soloing/getting into groups, go ranger. Mesmers are a whole lot of fun to play though, you just have to have more patience.

Sep 05, 2008, 12:05 AM // 00:05	#6
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	A well played Mesmer can do extremely well in PvE. However, the general view is that Mesmers don't work well in PvE, which isn't true at all when the person playing one knows what they're doing. I've got 24 PvE titles maxed on my Mesmer mainly using Heroes & Henchies, WITHOUT the use of ursan, buying runs, leeching, etc. (I don't have Drunkard, Sweet-tooth, or Party Animal titles yet.) There are two big problems with how people view Mesmers. The first is that many people who have little or no experience with the class don't know how and what exactly it is that Mesmers DO. The other problem is that GW is saturated with a cookie-cutter mentality and people want to get things done as fast as possible. Some of the best things that Mesmers can bring to a party go unnoticed because of the lack of visuals regarding their spells (no flaming rocks falling from the sky). I did THK with a PUG (M & B)and afterwards the party leader PM'd me and said "I don't know what all you were doing, but I've never seen ANYONE running around casting spells as much as you were! Wanna join my guild?" Rangers are very versatile and can fill many different rolls. BHA gives them excellent interrupting ability. Applying conditions is also something that Rangers can do very well. I don't play mine much, but I don't have too many troubles getting into groups for normal PvE play. (I hope the OP has enough time to read all that )

Sep 05, 2008, 12:08 AM // 00:08	#7
Rhamia Darigaz Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2008	neither are ridiculously good in pve, but rangers are more usefull for most of pve because they can benefit from orders and physical buffs in general. both are ridiculously good in pvp. edit: unless you wanna play cryway. then go mesmer.

Sep 05, 2008, 12:10 AM // 00:10	#8
snaek Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: N/	gwamm takes forever... go wit wutever class u'd enjoy playin for hrs on end

Sep 05, 2008, 08:22 AM // 08:22	#9
poasiods Krytan Explorer Join Date: Apr 2008 Profession: R/	You'll very likely end up getting sick of your main character class if investing enough time to achieve GWaMM. In that aspect, I think Ranger would be a better bet. Correctly me if I'm wrong, but some of the most viable functions for Mesmers in PvP or PvE are - Hex shutdown (melee/caster), interruption, Illusionary Weapon spiking, Me/E shutdown/snare, Me/E nuking, energy denial, degeneration, CoP nuking, etc. Some of the viable builds used by Rangers include: Dagger/axe/sword/hammer/scythe melee, spear chucking, interruption, shutdown (mostly via condition spamming), degen, trapping, spirit spamming, touching, thumping, beast mastering, splint barraging/incendiary arrow barraging, arrow spiking, etc. As powerful as Mesmers are, I think choosing Ranger would open up more choices of things for you to try while getting that GWaMM.